Posted by mirribears-andcraftsupplies on 21-Dec-2009 07:57 Report
Warning on cheap fake designer name cosmetics
Please don't be tempted to buy fake designer brand cosmetics , unfortunately this now seems to be another item being listed here in fast quantities.

You really do not get a genuine Dior Mascara/lipstick for $5.99 or genuine MAC for $9.99 etc . This stuff comes from who knows where and the ingredients may be dubious and possibly harmful   . Would you really put something on your eyes and lips that is possibly not even made under  health/chemical regulations.

These items may for all we know be tested on animals , have harmful chemicals etc .




 
Replied by cosmeticsseller on 21-Dec-2009 08:03 (Ref 2031735) Report
i hear you LOUD AND CLEAR! I worked for several cosmetics companies, and even staff didnt get deals on mascara etc that good, we got 40% off only. DIor mascara costs $50 something retail. But fake cosmetics can contain potentially irritating ingredients, and not the same quality you expect from these companies.. SOme from china can contain really horrible things.You might think you're getting a bargain, but not when your eye itches, or skin starts flaking or blistering. By that time, you most like would have left good feedback. The other thing is, you may be buying stolen merchandise. We had SO much theft (it was depressing) in cosmetics. The security team worked with the police, and sometimes found thousands of dollars worth of makeup/fragrance etc in peoples homes, where they were selling it, from their house. So its not necessarily fake, but could be sourced from illegal means.
Replied by nara120 on 21-Dec-2009 08:06 (Ref 2031738) Report

Regardless of any advice, I bet these sell like hot cakes! Like all suspected fake listings, they'll stay listed until Dior or MAC file a complaint.

Replied by mirribears-andcraftsupplies on 21-Dec-2009 08:06 (Ref 2031739) Report
I was hoping you'd come in cosmeticsseller you'll know more about cosmetics then me , but I'm so over this crap being listed here and another lot has just been listed.

Yesterday I found a new seller with 2465 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fake designer items . 89 ruddy pages of it.

Unfurtunately I bet they will too nara . I just hope people aren't silly enough to let vanity over-ride safety. No way I'd be putting that stuff on my eyes



Replied by thecrustyone on 21-Dec-2009 08:09 (Ref 2031746) Report
I sell cheap brand name cosmetics, not all cheap cosmetics are fake.
Mine are shelf pulled items from drug stores and dept stores in the USA that have gone out of business.
Replied by cosmeticsseller on 21-Dec-2009 08:14 (Ref 2031748) Report
i know what you mean crusty, you sell inexpensive makeup (you call that area Grey Market cosmetics) where its sourced legitimately, but might have different packaging, or slightly different ingredients from something that's sold here for example.
Replied by mirribears-andcraftsupplies on 21-Dec-2009 08:14 (Ref 2031749) Report
That's ok crustybum , the fake designer items are easy enough to spot as they are listed in fast quantities .



Replied by cosmeticsseller on 21-Dec-2009 09:05 (Ref 2031771) Report
www.bellasugar.com/411622 this might help potential buyers spot the fakes. and here in detail community.livejournal.com/uk_makeup/6330.html (how to spot fake MAC)
Replied by cosmeticsseller on 21-Dec-2009 09:27 (Ref 2031785) Report
just looking at some of my DIOR items, to show people what the box packaging should have on it, and what the product itself would have written on it.
In general, the lippies, will have a product code (it starts with a F), as well as a scanning code.
It will show the weight (in g and oz)
It will show the ingredients.
It will have a color number and name (in French and english).
It will have an inprinted manufacturer date (I cant tell when its been made, its generall 4 numbers/letters)
The codes should be the same on the product itself, and on the box, so for eg, it the code of the lippie is F2076, the box will have the same code.
The lippies will have a beautiful even texture, and pleasant odour. It wouldnt have any bubbles or bumpy bits (this means its old).
So, if you dont see these things on the item, or in the product description, it COULD be fake.
The mascaras will have a little symbol on it that looks like an open lid, with 6M (meaning, the products lasts for 6 months after opening)
They will also show the recyclable symbol.
If ur worried you may have got a fake, take it to your local cosmetic counter, and ask the consultant to compare it one of their products, if they don't know, ask for the head office number, and ask for customer service, they might help, as obviously these companies don't want to sully their reputation with having fakes out there.
Look at the companies website, it shows all the current products they have. Take a note of how the surface is textured or patterened (the eyeshadows/bronzers/blush will often have a canework pattern)
If the seller doesnt describe the item very well, it could well be fake, so for eg, if they say, Dior Lipstick, Peach, FULL SIZE: with no number, actual name, or weight of product, its most likely fake.
Also, I wouldnt EVER buy a mascara, if they photograph it OPEN and undone...YUK
Replied by fringey1976 on 21-Dec-2009 12:22 (Ref 2031927) Report
I would like to add that I am one of the very few sellers on here that has authentic MAC.
I am so sick of seeing all the fakes and I get messages from potential buyers saying they don't want to pay that much for mine when others have it for so much less. I kindly point out that they are fakes but many don't seem to care.

Yes my MAC items may be pricey in comparison, but there is no way I can buy them any cheaper, unless I want fakes which I do NOT!

Authentic MAC compacts do not come with double ended sponge tip applicators and those authentic eye shadow compacts that hold 15 round eye shadows do not have mirrors - the authentic ones are pro products. Lipstick, eye shadows, lip gloss, eye liners, lip liners etc all have shade names not a number i.e number 12. Only the fakes have numbers as the shade name. There are lots more things I can point out as differences but I have typed this so many times on this site, only for the thread to go poof soon after, as we are apparently not supposed to discuss fakes or so it seems.

It saddens me that so many buy the fakes and leave positive ratings saying that the items are authentic when it is so obvious that they are not - the clear or not so clear blurry pictures and descriptions speak volumes in my opinion.

I could go on but I really feel like banging my head against a wall instead and right now I have a baby to go and feed so will be back later instead!
Replied by cosmeticsseller on 21-Dec-2009 12:31 (Ref 2031941) Report
hey fringey,take a look or re-post my link on your items, as it shows some great tips how to spot the fakes, as well as the photos of the fakes. I really hate being asked like you, how come items are so expensive or what-have you. They are quality aren't they.
Replied by mirribears-andcraftsupplies on 21-Dec-2009 14:46 (Ref 2032061) Report
fringey1976 Thanks for posting , perhaps now anyone in doubt can check items against those that sell the genuine items plus the helpfull information already posted above , so they can see the difference.






Replied by fringey1976 on 21-Dec-2009 16:13 (Ref 2032146) Report
Thanks both of you.
There's also another site definitely worth looking at to find out more info on MAC products and it's called specktra.net
I use this site loads to check out what's what and what's new (nothing available for sale, just really useful info).

In addition I feel it is very important to add a couple more clues on what is authentic and what's not.
MAC Fluidline is sold in a small round jar, never square and it never comes with a little brush. MAC sell their brushes separately.
MAC single eye shadows do not contain little mirrors or mini sponge tip applicators in the base, the authentic ones only contain the eye shadow and the base does not pop open.
Fake MAC pigments usually have a spelling error on the back of the box e.g the 5th line down says POLVOS CON PLGMENTOS when in actual fact it should say PIGMENTOS.

Also the MAC logo on the front of the box (and not just pigments) is very bold and wide, compared to the rest of the print and what should be a barcode sticker on the box, is not a sticker on the fakes, it is simply printed on instead.

Be wary of purchasing a 15 slot MAC palette which is already full of colours, especially if the seller can't tell you the exact shade names for them all. I have been duped in this way a long time ago on another site. Product arrived, compact looked genuine (it was) but it was only when I used the eye shadows that I got an awful reaction....my eyes stung like hell for days and I couldn't use any makeup during that time and until the irritation cleared up . I removed a few of the eye shadows from the slots and sure enough, there were no shade names on the eye shadow bases. It was a very expensive mistake and one I never want to repeat!
Replied by hobals on 22-Dec-2009 15:44 (Ref 2033103) Report
Hi
Have you seen some of the names in the F/B ?
some regular forum dwellers too -

I cannot stand fakes- they give money to sleezy people who exploit child labour & esp the Cds - are used to fund things like the Bali bombing
Infact- MAKE UP - they are proven the make up has human urine & other disgusting things in them
that- are not only harmful but some are downright dangerous & poison
LEAD  & other cancer growing ingredients

Dior & Mac need to do something-
maybe a few emails to them would help
THEY  have to contact admin

cheers :-)
Replied by cosmeticsseller on 24-Dec-2009 19:23 (Ref 2034629) Report
Follow up on the fake MAC: there was a raid on a house in a Sydney suburb and they had thousands of dollars worth of fake MAC makeup. terrible, that people can sell fakes that can cause allergies.
Replied by fountainofbeauty on 20-Feb-2010 19:32 (Ref 2083276) Report
I just came over from the other side and could not BELIEVE the quantity of fake cosmetics here. Isn't there anyone who watches out to make sure that this carp doesn't get listed? It's great to see that there are also so many genuine sellers, but $5.50 for a dior lipstick and MAC pencils that are sealed in packs of 15 - give me a break! Isn't there any way to stop these shonky dealers?
Replied by lettherebesales on 27-Feb-2010 00:31 (Ref 2087931) Report
I agree- yucky yucky stuff is potentially in this fake makeup. It's pathetic that people are buying just to have products with a brand name- it would be much safer to buy $2 products that meet Aussie standards rather than this imported stuff with dubious origins. It's obviously not genuine MAC or Dior - and it's obviously not going to be of similar quality!!!
Replied by cosmeticsseller on 27-Feb-2010 10:49 (Ref 2088116) Report
exactly, you would be better of with buying Starlet or Australis cosmetics from the under $10 bin than fake. It might look pretty, but pretty outsides dont matter in cosmetics. Its the quality of the ingredient, the stringent testing, and hygiene etc.
Replied by cosmeticsseller on 03-Mar-2010 11:07 (Ref 2090736) Report
also worth a mention is not just fake makeup, but also fake skincare, which may contain really grose things like urine and ammonia. And on another vein of this is the fake brand makeup brushes too, you might think its natural hair obtained by non cruel means.
For example, the Clinique brushes: some of the real brushes are made from goat hair:the goat hair was obtained by brushing the goat, not from a having to kill the animal. You dont know how the hair was obtained from the fake brand ones, or if they were using cat or dog hair or something horrible.
MAC have hand sewn brushes, the fakes would be glued, the hairs would fall out quickly all over your face, and the brushes metal parts fall apart from the wooden bases. And the wooden bases could be painted with toxic materials or lead paint, you just dont know.
BE WARY: ask for more actual photos, ask for product codes, or the code that tells the manufacturing date (OH, BTW, dont worry too much if the product is a little bit older, as its not been open, and products last for about 4-5 years unopened, and 12 months to a few years generally after its opened) as sellers you need to be able to convey this info if asked. As buyers, feel free to ask these questions about products you are interested in, if you dont get an answer, easy...don't buy it