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Posted by mypuppy on 24-Oct-2011 16:18 Report
QUICKSALES LACK OF MARKETING.
 Does anyone agree with me?..QUICKSALES MUST LET PEOPLE KNOW THEY ARE HERE for sellers/buyers who are interested in anything other than motor vehicles. Sales for various items have been slow for no other reason other than the QUICKSALES marketing focus is very unprofessional and VERY few consumers know they even exist. The "other side" has really slowed down  due to ridiculous fees so now should be the time when someone with an ounce of  marketing aptitude from Quicksales should be making an effort to let the public know they offer a viable alternative.....Management...PLEASE focus on PROFESSIONAL marketing...
 
Replied by magnolia134 on 24-Oct-2011 16:24 (Ref 2316987) Report
There have been SO MANY threads saying exactly the same thing.
Replied by kiwiroo1212 on 24-Oct-2011 16:34 (Ref 2316991) Report
Management dont often come into threads so maybe put the suggestion direct to them.
Suggestion Box

Magnolia i know lol

Kiwi
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Replied by lioness7845 on 24-Oct-2011 16:43 (Ref 2316994) Report
 So many of us have been over and over and over this, been done to death and always falls on deaf ear's, so don't waste you time wishing for the impossible.
Replied by sheila-bloke47 on 24-Oct-2011 16:43 (Ref 2316995) Report
Ditto the above two posts.

We would all like to see advertising but alas I don't own QS so I just have to let them the owners do it.
Replied by mypuppy on 24-Oct-2011 16:59 (Ref 2316998) Report
 Management DO visit this thread but appears to ignore the suggestions made...marketing is very unprofessional and appears to concentrate ONLY on motor vehicles. Look at it this way...Join up and pay a fee which is non-refundable should you decide to back off...is that fair..?..Have said before.this site has incredible pontential but the marketing is very amateurish. Cannot understand why the marketing department focus on one thing only. This site COULD be a beauty.... 
Replied by stumpy007 on 24-Oct-2011 17:04 (Ref 2317000) Report
every time someone starts a thread about this my sales go up...GO FIGURE EH...so please...complain away YAY
Replied by kiwiroo1212 on 24-Oct-2011 17:06 (Ref 2317001) Report
Lol i said they dont visit often

Anyway the suggestion box is there for a reason. Its up to Quicksales to decide what they want to do with suggestions that come forth.

Lol Hi stumpy and happy selling lol :-)

Kiwi
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Replied by ellencol on 24-Oct-2011 17:10 (Ref 2317003) Report
 I agree magnolia and in my opinion they do more harm than good.

Ellen
Replied by stumpy007 on 24-Oct-2011 17:11 (Ref 2317005) Report
Thx kiwi Hi back to you too lol
been very quiet until someone complained a few days ago and HEY PRESTO I got sales again YAY
Replied by gypsycat on 24-Oct-2011 17:13 (Ref 2317007) Report
 I swear in 50 years time this place will still be here, still unheard of etc etc


Waiting for Quiksales to advertise
Replied by stumpy007 on 24-Oct-2011 17:14 (Ref 2317008) Report
LOL @ gypsycat
Replied by mypuppy on 24-Oct-2011 17:14 (Ref 2317009) Report
 So what you are saying is that poor QUICKSALES marketing is helping potential buyers and sellers..?..As I said..this site could be GREAT for buyers/sellers but the general public MUST be aware that the site exists...at the moment they DON'T..let's be honest please.
Replied by kiwiroo1212 on 24-Oct-2011 17:22 (Ref 2317011) Report
Lol Gypsy you need some more meat on those bones

puppy- It is what it is- You can do no more than forward the suggestion to admin. It is up to them to decide what they want to do with that suggestion.

At least your helping stumpy lol

Kiwi
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Replied by mypuppy on 24-Oct-2011 17:39 (Ref 2317026) Report
 Have contacted Admin.on several occasions re this subject to no avail...Ah well,if no-one agrees with me,so be it.
Replied by boo512 on 24-Oct-2011 17:51 (Ref 2317035) Report
 Not only do I not agree, but I'd really like to know on what planet you think it is acceptable to call the management of a site unprofessional ON THEIR OWN SITE!  Where are the mods when you need them?  As much as I believe everyone has a right to their opinion, this is just plain wrong!  If you are unhappy with the site, it is entirely in your hands to do something about it, FIND SOMEWHERE THAT SUITS YOU BETTER and leave this site to those of us who are happy with it as it is.  I'm just so sick of these sort of posts.  And that's my opionon, I'm entitled to one too.
Replied by mypuppy on 24-Oct-2011 18:09 (Ref 2317049) Report
 Fair comment. But what I am trying to say is that the site could be an absolute beauty if people knew it existed. It offers MUCH more than other sites but let's be really honest...how many people do you know who have seen advertising for Quicksales in terms of anything but motor vehicles...?..I'm NOT knocking the site..I'm just frustrated that it's not given professional exposure...Quicksales is by FAR the best option to..?
Replied by sheila-bloke47 on 24-Oct-2011 18:23 (Ref 2317054) Report
Sorry to disappoint you mypuppy but I've seen quicksales advertised on the carsales vehicles that I pass frequently in my travels.  I didn't hear it but other members have heard it advertised on 97.3fm radio in brisbane and other locations.
So thats shot the "there is no advertising at all ' down in flames.

Also unless you are a seller QS doesn't not charge you anything.  If you are a straight buyer then its all FREE.
If you are a seller then to be registered / verified by Australia post then you pay AUSTRALIA POST a fee of $20 which Quicksales / former OZtion, returns back to you via a credit.  Thats why that first $20 is nonrefundable.  Australia Post charges this fee.  I could be wrong but distinctly remember reading it when I first registered for verification near 4 years ago.

Any other fees for selling is your preference in setting up a v-shop but there are hundreds of us standard normal sellers doing quite nicely here with out having a v-shop.

I don't do facebook, twitter, hardly do spotd but I still manage to clear out my excess plants and this enables me to purchase more for my collection or any other things that take my fancy.

Maybe your items are not to everyones fancy, maybe compared to others they are dearer who knows other than prospective buyers why they don't buy from you. 
Also agree with Boo on the professional comment.  It is their site and unless you own it you abide by what they give you. 
Replied by mypuppy on 24-Oct-2011 18:50 (Ref 2317079) Report
 Thanks for that.A very sensible and constructive input. At no point have I complained about lack of sales from my personal selling ID. Just that I believe that so many other members deserve much more than they are being given. I still think  there is not enough focus on advertising the site for the casual seller whose input makes these sites so interesting for a myriad of potential buyers.Seems that no-one agrees with me so I'll back off now. A great pity that this wonderfully potential site might be soon  lost to so many people.
Replied by beallieblue on 24-Oct-2011 19:05 (Ref 2317081) Report
well stumpy007 I wonder if it will work for me.
I have been here for a few years, and have stuck it out.
Yes free listing is the reason and have  some lovely customers. But I do know a couple people who won't even shop or sell here, because of the slowness and hiccups.Also those moving and flashing ads.
Maybe one day our dreams will come true.
Replied by issabella10 on 24-Oct-2011 19:16 (Ref 2317082) Report
More advertising will help , it can't do anything but can it.

I've seen the carsales.com ads on Austar TV twice now but no mention or visible logo of qs . It's possible these ads cannot be adjusted but they don't appear to be difficult to remake ( probably would do a lot of good as the ads are not very interesting)

So there's a thought , remake them and add the qs logo. Not impossible.

There are some high volume sellers here who IMO do deserve better advertising , they are after all bringing in a good revenue.
Perhaps until they start putting the pressure on nothing will happen , but once again I'm sure many of us do the best we can and also spread the word ourselves. Most people in our town know about qs now and some sell here , which was a nice surprise to me.

I have a neighbour who swears by eBay and won't hear of nothing else , I heard she's not posted any parcels for weeks and is about to jack it in. Wish I could convince her to come here but I tried and she reckons it's not viable , oh well .
Replied by koolkatzonline on 24-Oct-2011 19:34 (Ref 2317084) Report
hi,
because quicksales is not an international site like ebay, it will always continue to run slowly for members. doubt all the marketing in the world would help. international buyers & sellers are needed for quicksales to really take off. ebay is international but it is killing all the sellers on there and a lot of these sellers are coming here. I know of a guy that was selling expensive handbags on ebay has now left and selling them via video on youtube. thats another way we all could promote our quicksales products. I'm preferring to sell on here because atleast I can make some profit, I might not sell as much. but atleast I'm in front. ebay is just a ripoff...no wonder sellers are leaving and going to other sites 

Penny
Replied by charlie2010 on 24-Oct-2011 21:02 (Ref 2317099) Report
marketing cost money , and omg if the put the fees up here the forums will be full of people complaining about that
Replied by sheila-bloke47 on 24-Oct-2011 21:45 (Ref 2317120) Report
mypuppy whilst I would agree that yes QS would profit from advertising what I don't agree with is as stated before all the put down threads about advertising.  I own my own business.  When asked how its going my reply is We're surviving.  Thats all a lot of business are doing at present in this economy.  To me as an owner there is nothing more infuriating than having someone tell me how to run my business.  Especially someone who doesn't have their own business.  They are not the ones who pays the bills.  Geez I once had a driver who did one trip to sydney in the truck.  He came back and I asked how did it go.  Good he said, easy work.  So I just said so you'll be back next week.  Do you know what he said.  Buy me a new truck and I will.  I made up his pay and said goodbye to him.

Yes we'd all love to see QS on the TV but as already said countless times before that type of advertising cost a hell of a lot of money and look how many people left when they raised the fee on sold items.  The owners are the ones with the cheque book and its up to them to decided what they will do. 
Replied by most-gorgeous-nutter on 24-Oct-2011 22:08 (Ref 2317123) Report
I just spent $1,000 marketing my bookshop on the local Win tv network. That only gives me 20 x 30 second commercials.
I'm not looking at it as a way to sell stuff, rather a way to let the locals out here in the country know I exist especially for the people over the other side of the Strezlecki range.
I'd post a link to a youtube, but I'm sure someone would complain.
Anyway, my point here would be, can carsales afford $1,000 packages lets say once a month in a different geographic area?
ie: Emerald one month, Canarvon next month, Mildura the following then Mt Gambier and so on.
Replied by ausbargainbasement on 24-Oct-2011 23:10 (Ref 2317130) Report
Yes i agree with all of the above this is a great site with a lot of potential as a Ebay powerseller sick of the big fees have listed my top selling Ebay items here and not a single sale lots of clicks but thats it not even a query on any products and i know they do sell . Even sell more from our low ranking website than here. Doi need to open a Vshop to get results not game to invest in that if cant even make sales as it is.
Replied by ejholden on 25-Oct-2011 05:01 (Ref 2317142) Report
I've always known that I see things differently, but ....... 
Somehow I don't think people associate QS with motor vehicles. You can't even list one here ....

Oh ... you mean Carsales.com.au .....
Well, their GM would have a budget derived from a % of gross income from that site to pay for their advertising. You could ask him, but somehow I don't think he would be too interested in using his advertising budget to promote QS ...... It's not as if that would help him achieve his performance targets ......
As it is, the GM of QS is probably already billing him for all the Carsales.com.au promo's on the QS site.

I imagine the GM of QS will have a similar budget structure and evaluates what will bring the greatest return for the spend. He will evaluate media reports and demographics, competitive activity, all the data that is deemed relevant ..... and make decisions on how best to spend that budget.
Google hits on BN items don't happen for free, you know.
He decided to sacrifice gross revenue and make re-listing and ARUS free ..... when possibly 15c from every dollar given away directly impacted his advertising budget.
Personally, I'm grateful for that one.

Yep, Carsales.com.au have reps .... and they generate revenue for QS.
One of the best things that happened was the decision to leave all the parts and accessories listings on QS, instead of directing them to the auto sites as has happened elsewhere.
In fact, the reverse has happened .... you get ported from *sales to QS.
I'm grateful for that one too .....

The Reps ?... Oh yeah .... Well, they are out there pushing QS to all their car dealer spare parts managers, new & secondhand parts and accessory traders, bike, caravan, boat & fishing clients ..... and using QS to find new clients too ....
Hmmm ..... I wonder if the GM of Carsales is billing QS for that?
Replied by ejholden on 25-Oct-2011 06:10 (Ref 2317145) Report
The funny thing is, these people are quietly listing away, selling items and generating revenue for QS .... possibly the revenue that allows us to enjoy the free re-listing.

Somehow .... the person wanting the BMW grilles, etc... managed to find QS. As did the person with the Audi. I imagine the person restoring the old Mazda was ecstatic to find a working ignition lock, complete with keys ......
Just a few of the items being sold regularly on QS .... to people who join up & buy what they need ..... They found the place .......

But then these aren't 2 & 5 dollar items .... so I guess they don't count.

ausbargainbasement      
Perhaps you should look at this ....
Australia Post Verification
Special offer - FREE Australia Post Verification with a 6 month vShop subscription. I want to take up this offer


Good to see the old Wonthaggi Warrior is back ...... You did live to get what you wanted Rama .....
Pity you aren't listing tho' .... Anybody using QS would think you don't exist any more .....
Maybe you could use you expertise to work out a schedule for which little regions get the advertising first?
Your choice - short straws or paper, scissors, rock .... 

Perhaps the puppy can create a suitable TV advert .... It needs to cover all facets of the site and be suitable for 30 second and abbreviated 15 second use.
I'm sure that somebody can arrange for you to present it to the QS GM, run it past the legal dept. & get you an appointment to present it to the CEO Carsales Ltd & the board.
Just don't dump too much crap on their professionalism ... they do run a billion dollar corporation and don't appreciate doggy doo on the boardroom Axminster .......
Replied by dezirable-books on 25-Oct-2011 07:32 (Ref 2317149) Report
I see you've had your morning coffee ej, lol

On the bottom of the carsales newsletter that is emailed regularly, there is the quicksales logo along with all the other subsidiaries.  It only showed up on the last newsletter, so they are slowly including this site, which is great.
Replied by dtfonehome on 25-Oct-2011 15:20 (Ref 2317229) Report
Unfortunately for you mypuppy the internet is a very popular shopping venue and fortunately for me I've found dozens of bargains over the past few months by searching for what I want thru 'google'.

I've found some of my favourite TV series on DVD, handbags, clogs, DMC threads, sewing needles and dozens of other items that I couldn't find here, out there on the WWW.

Years ago we were limited to a handful of sites where we could buy from, but that's not the case today.    There are literally dozens of sites available so why shouldn't we as buyers take advantage of them.

Advertising would be great  if it was free, but I fear that any major advertising would only incur a selling fee coupled possibly with a higher FVF fee and that would only make us a poor second cousin to eBay.

I don't agree that advertising will move your goods, if half a million people have passed through here and haven't bought your items I doubt the next half million will either.  Maybe a change of profession might be more lucrative.
Replied by remaynerecycled on 25-Oct-2011 16:11 (Ref 2317234) Report
Nah. Find somewhere that they do sell is more lucrative. In all honesty, the ones making great sales here should stay listing here, the ones not managing to sell anything should look around for where they will sell. I'm not advising everyone to rip their listings down and race off elsewhere but it's common sense, if they aren't selling here but there is nothing wrong with items and price, there's a place to sell them somewhere. Just not here.

But keep an eye on the place, test the waters out every now and then as things change and they might sell her next week, month or year.

Admin would probably do well to take note of what is selling well here and become a niche site for that. If it's bonsais and bottle collections then become the Aussie bonsai and bottle site.


Replied by big-l on 25-Oct-2011 17:44 (Ref 2317247) Report
every time I go to my Facebook page I place an add for www.quicksales.com.au cross fingers and hope
Replied by throughthelookingglass on 25-Oct-2011 20:58 (Ref 2317259) Report
I don't Faacebook or sell anywhere else but here. Call me old fashioned; But that's the service I provide here on Quicksales.  I like to keep my listings under 500; As that's an easy figure for me to manage.
 
I don't have a shop. Sales go through peaks & troughs, but I make a small living here. I've lots of lovely regular customers.

It would be nice if QS had more advertising. It is a viable alternative to the larger site, with more of those "Hard To Find" items. If only more people knew we are here.

Temando gives us an edge with cheaper trackable postage & full insurance cheaper than AustPost.  I'm here for the long haul; But would like more marketing.  Cheers, TTLG
Replied by lavenderkate on 26-Oct-2011 06:43 (Ref 2317273) Report
Is the writing on the wall ???

Free listing is great but where are the buyers ??

No buyers = No sales

No sales = Unhappy sellers

Management refuses to advertise QS

QS members ??? - Item for sale 541345

A business cannot survive if not making a profit

How long before we see the end of QS

Replied by boo512 on 26-Oct-2011 07:18 (Ref 2317279) Report
 We have a rule on this site, "respect for others" and another one "no defamation" and yet another, "don't post anything that is damaging to Quicksales".  If the shoe was on the other foot and a buyer posted in the forums about a seller, naming them and saying that they were unprofessional, had poor customer service and didn't communicate, there would be an uproar. I would hazard a guess many of the posters in this thread would join the chorus.  And rightly so, it breaches the rule about naming and shaming, it breaches the rule about respecting others, and it portrays that seller and QS in general in a poor light to potential customers.  Such things are meant to be discussed privately between the parties involved and admin if necessary.  So why is it so hard for some to understand that posts that label the management of this site as unprofessional and lacking in business skills and marketing expertise, or just plain unwilling to promote the site, are just as bad if not worse.  They breach all of the above rules, they are based purely on what the individual poster wants and not on any definitive knowledge of the site's marketing strategies, and they are just plain rude.  If you want to attract customers, airing your dirty linen in the public forums is not the answer.  Have a bit of common sense people, and a bit of common courtesy wouldn't go astray either.
Replied by dezirable-books on 26-Oct-2011 07:29 (Ref 2317283) Report
Is the writing on the wall ???    - I hope not

Free listing is great but where are the buyers ??  Despite popular belief there ARE buyers here

No buyers = No sales  - That's a no-brainer, lol

No sales = Unhappy sellers  - Not all sellers are unhappy

Management refuses to advertise QS - That is not true - they do advertise - maybe not where YOU want them to, but that is their prerogative

QS members ??? - Item for sale 541345 -  The member counter was taken away presumably because of the constant forum threads about how they were probably all fake id's, or multiple id's, inactive id's yadayadayada

A business cannot survive if not making a profit - if you are talking about QS, how do you know that they aren't?  If you are talking about yourself, yes, that is true of course, but any sensible business savy person doesn't put all their  eggs in the one basket

How long before we see the end of QS - Who knows? but with posts like this, it could be sooner than the majority of members want
Replied by sheila-bloke47 on 26-Oct-2011 07:49 (Ref 2317287) Report

Is the writing on the wall?   Yes it is.  Quicksales offers a place to list for free, doesn't charge you an arm and a leg to do it.

Free listing is great but where are the buyers??   Pardon me but 'Here".  I am a buyer.  Just bought this week a few times.  Probably a lot of others are too.
 
No buyers = No sales.  Struck out again.  I've bought and I've sold this week. Probably a lot of others have also too.

No sales = Unhappy sellers.   Like there are not any sales on Quicksales.  I've sold and probably a lot of others have too.
And I'm happy.

Management refuses to advertise Quicksales.  I didn't know that you had a seat on the board. Quicksales is being
 advertised.  Just because you haven't seen it myself and others have seen it advertised.

Quicksales members??? Items for sale 541345.     When they put up membership numbers some  bagged the number 
 asking if it didn't count old or multi id members.  Does it matter, is it the end of the world that its no longer there.  The items for sale will change on a minute to minute clock.  When it sells it decreases it, when it expires it changes it, when it relists it changes it, when its a new listing it changes it.  A lot better than seeing a standard approximate number that used to be there.

A business cannot survive is not making a profit.  Once again are you privy to the books?  Would anyone have purchased OZtion if it wasn't showing a profit?

How long before we see the end of Quicksales?   It will out live the downers.  Quicksales offers a great venue which a lot of
us are very happy with.  So its not perfect.  What isn't perfect.  As members of Quicksales we've been given this place as a vehicle to use to the best of our advantages.  Some are happy with it and some will never be happy with it.  You can't please everyone so simple solution.  If you don't like it don't use it. 

I am happy with the service and venue that is provided to me as a member of Quicksales.  I am happy to buy here.  I am happy to sell here.  I don't wear rose tinted glasses.  There is room for improvement anywhere but what is offered to me now suits me fine. 

Replied by dtfonehome on 26-Oct-2011 08:48 (Ref 2317294) Report
It might be time to drag out the old adage "Time to get rid of these forums".

People whinged till they got moderators and now all they do is whinge because all the mods do is delete posts - go figure.

People whinged because some posted more threads than others so we got rid of a lot of forums off the front page - again - go figure.

People whinged in the whinge thread till the whinge thread had to go because of the whinging - (yawn)

People whinge because of the fakes listed here, yet if you look at the sales numbers of fakes sold you don't have to be Einstein to figure out it's the members on this site who buy them.....another yawn

If the best we can do is continually slam management and it's decisions I wouldn't be surprised if  someone announced that these forums serve no useful purpose other than stirring up crap that should be deleted by moderators and duly get rid of them..........(the threads, not the moderators.)

I love coming in here and reading different threads, sometimes interesting, always controversial but nevertheless an exciting part of the leftover OZtion community, so why not try and keep what dignity we have left and quit-the-bitchin' about admins decisions and try and lift the face of the place just in case some new buyers come trotting by looking for a bargain.  God knows I'd run a mile if I joined today and read some of the whinging that's going on.

If you don't like the place - then leave, and good luck.

If you DO  like the place -  then support it and quit whinging, it just makes you look like a sourpuss 'cos no-one buys your stuff.

AND (please) don't whinge at me 'cos of what I've said, it's not directed at anyone in particular, just a general observation.
Replied by remaynerecycled on 26-Oct-2011 12:12 (Ref 2317327) Report
I'm a bit surprised, not so much in this thread but the complaints threads lately over all, as to who is doing the complaining. A lot are ones I never thought I'd see unhappy here. Makes for interesting reading as my head goes suddenly into whiplash effect on realising who just wrote a scathing comment.
Replied by most-gorgeous-nutter on 26-Oct-2011 12:43 (Ref 2317330) Report
Hi EJ, nice to hear from you again.
How are the trains going?

Points that people have made here I think I was reading about when I started selling here a few years back.
Some things never change lol. :)
Only makes me feel homesick.

One good thing about this thread is I've found out Auto Re-list Until Sold is free Yay!

Does anyone outside of Quicksales know this fact though?

I know the opposition have raised fees recently.

Being a site anyone can google, the stuff here is only going to sell if there is more of it to get the google hits.

There are lots of things people use to goole like fantasy movies/DVD's, Australian/Aussie DVD's/movies etc...
If you were to just put the title of the movie in, you miss a large segment of the public who didn't know your item was Australian or a Fantasy dragon style flick etc...

This goes for other stuff too, just a little creative wording and descriptions can go a long way.
Replied by brerrabbit on 26-Oct-2011 20:30 (Ref 2317390) Report
Being a site anyone can google, the stuff here is only going to sell if there is more of it to get the google hits.

So why aren't you listing, mgn???? 
Replied by BB2011 on 27-Oct-2011 10:34 (Ref 2317424) Report
Over the years I've bought a number of items here.  I tend to stick to sellers who make it easy for me as a buyer

Marlsey is one.  Lolli is another and lately Alfierow has joined the sellers I check first

Why do I tend to buy from the same sellers repeatedly ?  It's because they're serious about selling & they consistently provide good information & service

Here is what I know I'll find in a Marlsey or Lolli item description, for example:

* Size

* Actual measurements, using a tape-measure

* Fabric type

These days, a Size 16 (for example) can vary from maker to maker & also within a maker's range of size sixteens

Lolli and Marlsey and other favourites therefore put a tape-measure across the front or back of the item at the underarm point & advise the buyer the item is say, 128 cms. around, approx.  They give the length taken at centre back & sleeve length.  They tell the buyer if the item has stretch & the fabric type

Often, they have a Buy it Now price as well, for those who choose.   And they let the  buyer know whether or not they're prepared to combine postage by advising they're happy to fill a small or larger bag, etc 

These successful sellers often combine most of the above information (which is vital to a sale) within the Item Description or Sub-Header.  That way it can be seen by potential buyers as they scroll down the page & relieves them of having to click into each individual item's page and/or Ask a Question

Over the years, I've told hundreds of people about Oztion/Quicksales - often I've recommended Quicksales to the same people on several successive occasions.  But the feedback, when I've asked, ' Why don't you try Oztion/Quicksales first ? '  has often been negative.   They've said:

* Too hard - Search engine is hopeless

* Takes too long to scroll through it all

Others have said they don't have time to message a seller for information and wait for a reply.  Meaning, if the basic information isn't readily available in the item description (i.e.,  actual measurements rather than mere label sizing - fabric type - enquiries about possible handling charges, rates for multiple purchases, etc.)  then they keep moving.  So those are lost opportunities for sellers 

It's obviously frustrating for sellers to not be making sales, yet the information-rich sellers I've mentioned above have been successfully selling here for years, using the same Quicksales platform as everyone else - with or without Quicksales promotions and advertising
Replied by marian-48 on 27-Oct-2011 10:47 (Ref 2317426) Report
I agree with you about measurements in description ! Its so much easier to measure while listing than have to get the item out if asked a question. I also put the weight of each item in my listings, so buyers can add weights up to fill a satchel.
My pet hate is 5 cent listings and a BIN at a greater price , with $15 postage , thats a real turn off ,to me anyway. Mostly the seller knows they will only get 1 bid and make their profit from postage.Marian
Replied by BB2011 on 27-Oct-2011 11:07 (Ref 2317432) Report
Should have added your Quicksales ID to the other successful Quicksales sellers, Marian.  Also Magnolia and there are others.  Hopefully your numbers will increase to the point potential-buyers can scroll down pages, finding at least bust measurements and fabric included in Headers and Sub-Headers.  Would make such a difference to sales' rates, imo

Currently, there are over 230 pages of Women's Tops, for example.  That's a lot of eye-strain.  I had to quit half-way, which is better than I can usually manage :(

Regardless of Quicksales' perceived faults, it's still a handy platform if exploited to fullest advantage by sellers.  People always have an eye out for bargains, especially in today's financial climate.  Frustrating for buyers though, when an item that's been sitting unsold for months has not been updated with basic information.  Gives them no incentive to return.  And of course, a seller who's obviously made the effort to keep postage to a minimum will appeal to buyers the most.  Like most, I try always to buy in multiples, whether here or on other sites, purely to limit postage costs.  These days I can't justify postage for one item, when it can often work out more cheaply to buy new from bricks and mortar stores
Replied by marian-48 on 27-Oct-2011 11:18 (Ref 2317433) Report
A lot dont realise the sub-header does not come up in a search, and often the item size is in there. So many items could be found easier if as much as possible was in the main description title. Marian
Replied by brerrabbit on 27-Oct-2011 11:40 (Ref 2317436) Report

Yes, the site IS a good one and too many sellers don't make sales because they don't make the effort to put proper descriptions.  Some sellers have enough brains to realise that most buyers like to know what they're actually getting and they're relying on the seller to be their "eyes".  In other words, we need to put everything in the listing that the buyer could see for themselves if they had the item in front of them.  I try and do that in my listings and I'm sure it helps with my sales.  It only takes an extra couple of minutes per listing and if I'm going to list something I may as well do it properly.

Having a good product range also helps, but a good product is useless if no details are supplied!

I'm happy with just about everything on this site - except for the search engine!!!!  If people can't use minus words and eliminate the stuff they're not interested in they'll give up.   However, I can't change it so I live with it.
Replied by BB2011 on 27-Oct-2011 12:34 (Ref 2317445) Report

@ dtfonehome


A lot of the bigger site's sellers sell on Quicksales simultaneously - even listing the same items.  Which is their prerogative - they're sellers after all and need to keep stock moving

Can't say I always find what I'm looking for on the other site.  What the other site has going for it is size, word-of-mouth and paid advertising and of course, it's international.  Their fees reflect all that and many would argue the playing-field's un-level and favours buyers at sellers' expense (particularly in regard to Feedback)

But that is there and here is here - and what's at issue here is turnover and exposure

Exposure doesn't necessarily require paid advertising and as many have said, advertising costs of necessity would be reflected in Quicksales fees, which would defeat the purpose of a low-priced platform

Word of mouth is free and it works - but only to the extent sellers step up to the plate by providing those buyers who do come here an enjoyable - not frustrating - experience.  Much of the frustration and lost sales could be alleviated if buyers were left in no doubt about what they were buying.  And that is easily addressed via informative Item Descriptions
Replied by remaynerecycled on 27-Oct-2011 14:51 (Ref 2317464) Report
you know, of three names I just saw mentioned as wonderful sellers here, two I've seen talking of their disatisfaction with the sales here lately and one I've seen working their butt off to make sales on another sie and doing extremely well from it.

So, it has eventually come to the crunch with a lot of the sellers here that they leave and sell elsewhere. What does a buyer here do? Find another seller on this site or follow their trusted seller to another site?

I don't know what the answer is but I suspect (and in some cases I know) that others have had to make this decision, and no doubt more will in the future going by these threads. I'm not sure where peoples loyalties will like. Seller or site?
Replied by feelin-couture on 29-Oct-2011 09:20 (Ref 2317694) Report
I don't know what infuriates me more the fact that i have been here for years and never seen sales improve or the fact that they re-named it QUICK sales
Replied by brerrabbit on 02-Nov-2011 10:41 (Ref 2318190) Report
Anybody who spends money on marketing a site that doesn't work needs to go and see a psychiatrist. 

The search engine here is totally useless.  I did a search for Winnie the Pooh in quilting fabrics yesterday and only ONE of my listings showed up.  I have EIGHT listings with those words in the title.  Only one out of a possible eight items showing up in a title search is appalling.  I searched several ways and I got the same result every time.

If potential buyers do a search and get no results they'll assume there's nothing for sale here so they won't stay, and they probably won't check back at a later date.  If people can't find things there's no way we can sell them.  It's like me having a cupboard full of fabric and expecting it to sell before I even get it listed.
Replied by dezirable-books on 02-Nov-2011 15:44 (Ref 2318258) Report
Hi brerrabit, can you put up a couple of item numbers of the missing items?  I can only find one when searching through your items as well, so it's a bit of a mystery.
Replied by marian-48 on 02-Nov-2011 16:14 (Ref 2318261) Report
Hi, yes I also put in a search for Winnie the Pooh quilting ~ only 1 came up. 
Thn when you go to sellers similar items you have others.
There is nothing wrong in your description line, so maybe contact admin and ask why this is so, Marian
Replied by boo512 on 02-Nov-2011 16:19 (Ref 2318263) Report
First rule of search engines:

Less is more.

Try searching for just "Winnie", you get all 16 results under quilting, too much information can have the effect of limiting search results
Replied by marian-48 on 02-Nov-2011 16:28 (Ref 2318264) Report
Only one of those 16 is from
  • Seller: brerrabbit
  • and there should be others. Marian
Replied by cdrhn on 02-Nov-2011 18:19 (Ref 2318274) Report
just to make it clear boo, whether you search winnie, pooh, or winnie the pooh, only ONE item if brerrabbit's comes up. When you go to her shop and do the same search she has EIGHT listings with winnie the pooh in the title.

There's no problem with her spelling, or the spacing between the words.

So, you'd have to think there's a problem with quicksales search engine wouldn't you?
Replied by issabella10 on 02-Nov-2011 19:17 (Ref 2318276) Report
brerrabbit

Those Winnie the Pooh listings where the headers have

- & .
 in them etc often don't come up , if you remove those you'll find they will show.  You shouldn't have to , but with the way the Search facility is here you might as well as it's pot luck whether headers as such show or not .

like            Glow-in-the-dark

with no spaces in that line the Search facility will not recognise it , take out the -  to show  = Glow in the dark

Hope that helps




Replied by feelin-couture on 06-Nov-2011 22:00 (Ref 2318929) Report
I am surprised they haven't done anything to lure members from the other side to here over the past few weeks as changes have been implemented there that have killed sales by up to 90%.  You only have to read their forums to realise most are very upset and looking for other online selling venues not sure if they know about here or not.
Replied by brerrabbit on 07-Nov-2011 23:06 (Ref 2319072) Report
Thanks for the comments on searching and the helpful hints.  I won't comment on the UNhelpful, misleading comments re search engines.

I sent a note to admin and I got a note back to say they'd look into it.  I've been a bit busy and hadn't tried doing a search until just now - and all of my listings now show up.   Well, not the one I accidentally withdrew instead of editing.

Frankly, I was too discouraged to look until now.  I couldn't list for several days because the system wouldn't let me so I decided to do other things.  The bald look doesn't suit me (tearing my hair out).
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