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Posted by extrakeen on 16-Aug-2011 07:02 Report
Can forever "not sold" listings be dealt with?

Being relatively new to this site (active for only a week) I have very quickly realised there is a whole lot of argument over whether some listings should be here or not and whether there should be a small listing fee to discourage the so called "unsaleable items" and items that will recycle for ever filling up the space.

I have a suggestion:

What if accounts that become inactive after 1 month become suspended until the member re-activates.

In other words, if they haven't visited the site within 1 month, their listings be made invisible until they re-activate their accounts.

Can it be done firstly? is it feasible? would it help with the plethora of listings that don't sell but appear constantly?

curious to know what others think?
 
Replied by remaynerecycled on 16-Aug-2011 07:10 (Ref 2308454) Report
their listings go into Unsold after 60 days anyway. i think that was the point of Unsold in the first place. Weed out the ones who list and never come back.
Replied by extrakeen on 16-Aug-2011 07:12 (Ref 2308457) Report
Yes, but does that include the new setting of being able to re-list until sold? what happens to those?
Replied by ilikemysecretforumname on 16-Aug-2011 07:33 (Ref 2308460) Report
Well i'll tell you what i think.......... I have no problem with lots of listings, in fact i think it is more desirable than fewer listings. Whinging about seeing the same listings is selfish in the extreme. You might like to visit some shops and complain that their stock on the shelves is annoying you because it is still there!!........The recent scrapping of the relisting fee is the most important thing this site has done in a few years . I do not want this fee to return because some people want to reduce the number of listings.
Replied by issabella10 on 16-Aug-2011 08:10 (Ref 2308464) Report
It's my understanding that those listings that fall into 'unsold' still have to be manually relisted so that would cover any seller that has gone walkies.

If they have a vShop they still continue to pay for that service so while they have active but relisted/relisted etc items at least a fee is being paid and anyone is entitled to sell their items till sold or otherwise.

Personally I can't see how come some peeps seem to know something of a seller has been relisted for years unless they have nothing better to do with their time but watch people's items for that purpose, I'm a consistent browser and I certainly can't recall anything that's been around for years nor would I bother to even try and remember .

Even shops rotate their goods , what doesn't sell one season goes to another outlet etc .
Replied by dezirable-books on 16-Aug-2011 08:14 (Ref 2308466) Report
IMO everyone should be concentrating on their own listings and not worrying about things that are really beyond their control.  

If someone wants to waste their time listing smelly holey sneakers, sobeit - hell, it might even make the news and be great advertising for quicksales!  - any advertising is good advertising in the end.

Ok, now someone will say that quicksales will then be known as a junk sale site, but I've seen some disgusting things listed elsewhere that have made the news and the label hasn't stuck.
Replied by kiwiroo1212 on 16-Aug-2011 08:16 (Ref 2308467) Report

Hi whats unsaleable or worthless to some isnt to others. How do you define that? It could almost be insulting defining the difference.

Example, i live in a small country town, not alot here. I've brought many and varied items which had you of lived in the city you could easily source.

If an account becomes unactive after a month?? As metioned previously you have longer than this now before items go into unsold.

 We want to encourage members not discourage them.

JMO

Kiwi
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Replied by auscharm on 16-Aug-2011 08:42 (Ref 2308470) Report
 I put my hand up as someone who is guilty of having some items doing the rounds for a couple of years.  On the same note though, I don't believe I have unsaleable items and I am pleasantly surprised when along comes a new buyer and purchases the items that have served their time.  Sometimes it takes a while for an item to sell, if there is nothing wrong with them they should definitely stay and who is to say there is anything wrong with them.  My trash may well be your treasure but if it is still trash to you there may be someone else to treasure it.

Donna
Replied by vitrail on 16-Aug-2011 08:43 (Ref 2308471) Report
I said nobody business what people list on here. I have been here over 6 years, and I don't sell a lot but I still like it, and yes I do realist my items regularly. I don't think my items are "unsaleable"  it is hard time and people buy what they need!
Replied by mygifts2 on 16-Aug-2011 09:34 (Ref 2308479) Report
 My 2 cents worth..lol  I have had items sell that have been here for eons.  Not because there was anything wrong with them, but because the buyer that needed/wanted that item hasn't found it yet.

I had something sell a week or two ago that this particular buyer had been searching everywhere for.  I had one in stock and she needed 3.  Luckily I was able to get 2 more for her and some extra for myself to list.  So as others have said, what may to you, be the same old same old, there is someone out there looking for just that item.

I must admit that I do sometimes give some of my items a 'holiday'.  Re-list at a later date rather than when they go into unsold.

Don't forget, it is all 'new' to the new members that join.
Replied by extrakeen on 16-Aug-2011 09:36 (Ref 2308480) Report
I personally don't think anyone's items are unsaleable either and I love this site, so far as I can see it is a great place to shop, browes etc and fulfills a really needed spot in the market. And in my view whether there are one or 100's of items in a category - all the better - more choice, which ultimately will bring more browsers and buyers.

Usually if someone is wanting something specific, they will search for that specific item and won't see things they don't want to view anyway.

But looking at some of the other community postings, I certainly get the feeling that there is a little disquiet.

I say, keep on listing! Let's bring the buyers in - lets show them that we can be professional about our sales - regardless of what they are! So keep on tweeking listings, keep in improving sales. Hard work will reward in the end, whether it is here on quicksales or elsewhere!
Cheers
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Replied by remaynerecycled on 16-Aug-2011 10:32 (Ref 2308509) Report
I thought the subject was about sellers who have listings here going around in circles but don't return to the site to maintain them?
Replied by pashmina on 16-Aug-2011 10:36 (Ref 2308510) Report
Who knows what sells and what doesn't! I must say I get a laugh at some of the items that I've seen..oh my.

But as far as relishing old stock.. One of my top sellers this year, is an item I bought over 10 years ago. They were popular in the late 90's and now seem to have made a resurgence in fashion. I even mention in my listings I've had the stock 10 years. I've even had them highlighted in the recent promotions on this site.

There is always a buyer out there for every item... Lol
Replied by weinerpatrol on 16-Aug-2011 10:54 (Ref 2308514) Report
Who knows if sellers have been back to the site or not? You don't have to log in to visit the site.
Some people put trust in the email system to let them know if they need to log in to deal with questions or sales.
Replied by musk on 16-Aug-2011 11:06 (Ref 2308525) Report
 I agree that this relist option without fee just introduced again is a huge step in the right direction for oztion right now in this economic climate. It has saved me hours in front of the computer relisting stuff ( I didn't pay the relist fee anyway) but I was getting discouraged and now I have more time to list new things. My husband already jokes that I am married to oztion not him!
I think it cuts down on the number of multiples of the same listing in Google too. I think that is worse as people will just not bother looking at oztion listings if every time they click on one it has "ended". Much better in my opinion to just allow relisting of the same listing and then google is not clogged by mulpitples of the same listing. It will also help people to be able to search by the newest listings and not have to go through all the old ones as well.
 I can understand it is annoying when searching for something to have to sift through all the same listings you have seen before especially with clothing but as everyone else has said the more listings the better for all of us as it will attract new customers. I am one of the guilty ones that you mention but I am on oztion 6 days a week and check a few times through each day as well.
I have also sold a few items after 18 months or so just when I was about to cull them and send them to the salvation army so I usually give them a few years now as you never know when the right buyer will come along.  I was even looking for refridgerators and stoves in my area on here last night...none found but I thought I would try. 
Replied by dezirable-books on 16-Aug-2011 11:51 (Ref 2308530) Report
Some people put trust in the email system to let them know if they need to log in to deal with questions or sales.

That could be their downfall!

Gmail, yahoo and hotmail have had big issues with oztion/quicksales emails going to trash/junk files and not being seen by sellers.

If they log in to quicksales though, the messages WILL be in their inbox.

We have had posts from sellers lamenting the fact they have had no sales and in the same thread posters have said they are still waiting on replies to questions sent by those same sellers.

The moral of the story, DON'T RELY ON YOUR EMAIL SYSTEM TO LET YOU KNOW YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED OR INVOICES TO BE SENT, actually take the time to log in and check.  You wouldn't only go in once every few weeks to your B & M store to see what had been "sold" would you, or if someone was waiting at the counter with a question?
Replied by magnolia134 on 16-Aug-2011 12:38 (Ref 2308536) Report
>>Much better in my opinion to just allow relisting of the same listing and then google is not clogged by mulpitples of the same listing.<<

That's a good point. When you do a manual relisting, the item is given a new number and the previously just expired item will come up in a google search as 'ended' but with no indication it is still for sale. At least by retaining the same item number the listing will be valid for much longer.
Replied by sheila-bloke47 on 16-Aug-2011 21:17 (Ref 2308589) Report
I think its a bad suggestion.  This plethora of listings that you mention is what Quicksales is all about.  Would you prefer that we had only half the listings.
What you or another member calls unsellable, in another thread from the other day, is not unsellable when the correct buyer comes along.  I don't care if it takes 5 years for that to happen.  To me that is better than seeing 1,479 listings from china for umbrella's , handbags, gloves, etc etc.
What is junk to someone is treasurable to someone else.
What is unsellable to someone is buyable to someone else.

Best example of this.  Here in Brisbane is a man who has made a fortune by having the rights to collect and sell all items dumped at the local council tips.  So good a fortune infact that he drives a flash mercedes Benz with the personalised number plate JUNK.  He collects it puts a few dollars on it and sells thousands of items.  He calls it recycling.
Replied by marian-48 on 17-Aug-2011 11:16 (Ref 2308620) Report
Sellers also need to click the BRAND NEW symbol when listing. One sellers has loads of underwear not showing in NEW but USED as no symbol, surely they must be missing sales because of this, Marian
Replied by kiwiroo1212 on 17-Aug-2011 11:33 (Ref 2308623) Report

Marian i agree with making sure the New items are displayed and ticked as new, I recently came across this as well (items new but in the used section)and sent a pm to the seller- very nice reply back as well :-)

Kiwi
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Replied by brerrabbit on 17-Aug-2011 13:17 (Ref 2308639) Report
If people are concerned about the image that the site presents, why not complain about things that are far more obvious to newcomers than how long something has been listed - for example, flashing ads that have blatant spelling errors in them and give the site an air of gross incompetence.  The latest is the 'mangement consultant'.  Has he got mange or what????  Before that we had the freshner instead of freshener - not sure if that one is still running or not.
Replied by remaynerecycled on 18-Aug-2011 07:11 (Ref 2308727) Report
just to clarify, I do have items listed here, just not under this ID. And I'm not sure how someone with no items who has had items here is any different to someone with ten items who hasn't sold any of them in the last year?

There are some odd yardsticks on this site at times.
Replied by techA on 18-Aug-2011 08:30 (Ref 2308733) Report
Some people are always ready to jump the gun and assume they know everything.

I also think it's pretty rude to point out that the op is new so his/her opinion isn't important. Op asked a question and asked for thoughts on that question, not thoughts about his/her character.
And members wonder why people up and leave, it's almost like some forum members don't want new members to stay.
Replied by lane-ends on 20-Sep-2011 21:11 (Ref 2312717) Report
seems admin is now encouraging forever unsold items, without prompts to revise by dropping them into unsold
Replied by nicegreenpetticoats on 20-Sep-2011 21:55 (Ref 2312728) Report
I have often had stuff I have had on for ages suddenly sell when I list something new, it is a weird phenomenon, but it happens.

If you dump items just because they have been there for a while you could miss out on a potential sale.
Replied by franticfran17 on 21-Sep-2011 14:31 (Ref 2312805) Report
There is a buyer for everything--You just have to be patient.
Replied by pashmina on 21-Sep-2011 21:03 (Ref 2312844) Report
True...patience is a virtue !!!

ALL items will eventually sell....some in a few weeks...some in a few months...lol
Replied by lane-ends on 25-Sep-2011 21:08 (Ref 2313322) Report
Add 3 items to inventory. odds are one will be good seller, on will  ok, one no interest.

2 good sellers sell and 1 ok seller sells.

These 3 items are replaced with 3 new items 1 good, 1 ok and 1 no interest.
 
Assuming the no interest items are not removed from sale. 2 things can happen either you will have to gradually increase total inventory to keep sales turnover the same as the % of remaining good sellers to poor sellers dimishes, or your sales drop if total inventory stays the same, as you are replacing good sellers with items that could fall in either catagory.

Without a doubt some sellers here now have massive inventories compared to a few years ago, does that mean that sales must be pouring in or that it is required to maintain sales they had a few years ago?.

This is a well known marketing / business factor, cant remember what its called, median creep or something, where the average quality/sales slowly shifts naturally without notice due to quality in not equalling quality out. sellers stock up based on perceived demand, whereas sales out are based on actual demand,. It takes a very astute seller to match those accurately

An additional factor will come into play is what you might call "location, location" The value of high value items will drop by being surrounded by lower value items, as they are placed in the market place where buyers of the predominant price bracket are looking. If buyers are looking at your store listings(or even the site as a whole) to see what may be of interest and you have hundreds of items, the bulk of no interest, they will stop and move on  before they have completed the search
Replied by pashmina on 26-Sep-2011 23:51 (Ref 2313469) Report
A very interesting theory....

One can only hope that we all try our best to list quality items
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